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There is a LOT of weirdly obvious Alice in Wonderland themes in this season. Another example, Poe married his own cousin when he was 26 and she was 13 in 1835.

Also not all stories must have a message. Actually there is no evidence that Carroll ever tried drugs beyond some alarming-sounding homeopathic remedies, which included dosing himself with “aconite and arsenic” to cure a stubborn cold.

The "original" Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass are the stories Charles Dodgson(Lewis Carroll is a pen name) told to Alice Liddell and her siblings. Carrol also had an interest in children which many people looking back consider sexual, although during his lifetime there was no overt scandal caused by that. (As that is rather a hard word, I will just explain to you how it was done. Don't Panic! He later wrote them down at the behest of Alice - gifting it to her, and then expanded upon them to create the novels.

There is no dark tale.

He had a strange relationship with the daughters of one of his colleagues and wrote the story for one of them. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast.

Alice in wonderland • 2 points • 2 comments. What almost everyone agrees on is that Alice’s sudden physical changes comically reflect on an inevitable fact of life. Alice in Wonderland wasn't originally gruesome but the story (or one of the stories) surrounding it's creation was kinda creepy. It is our intent and purpose to foster and encourage in-depth discussion about all things related to books, authors, genres, or publishing in a safe, supportive environment. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts.

This thread is archived. He wrote a book called 'That Hideous Strength' (compared to Brave New World, which might be more familiar) - its very weird with a dodgy scientific institution called 'N.I.C.E' with a private police force, psychic powers and satanic forces.

'” Alice asks as she falls down the rabbit hole, trying to think of life above and life in the rabbit hole at once. (In real life a caterpillar becomes a butterfly; in dreams a caterpillar becomes a cat.)

But I would at least like to think Alice in Wonderland was created with some meaning behind it all. and ooh!

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I can't recommend The Annotated Alice by Martin Gardner enough; he does a fantastic job of explaining every detail and reference in both Alice books, and it's all very accessible. Which sounds horrible, but it's still true.

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The fairy tale might have stood the test of time but the true story behind Alice In Wonderland is, well, just a little bit creepy.. Lewis Carroll was a pseudonym for Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, who was born in England in 1832. The Mad Hatter obviously. If you're looking for help with a personal book recommendation, consult our Weekly Recommendation Thread, Suggested Reading page, or ask in r/suggestmeabook. save hide report. There are many other local references: there is a real treacle healing well near Oxford in the village of Binsey, and Alice also plays a grotesque version of the croquet games she would have enjoyed in Christ Church. Although that's rather a lot to put on single Top Hat and possible Lewis Carrol connections. in the US and is 16 in the UK. All rights reserved. Note: Use one of these format guides by copying and pasting everything in the blue markdown box and replacing the prompts with the relevant information.If you are using New Reddit, please switch your comment editor to Markdown Mode, not Fancy Pants Mode.

Some parts of Carroll’s story assume a degree of local knowledge.

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They're like having in-class notes for every discussion!”, “This is absolutely THE best teacher resource I have ever purchased. The entire narrative has a verse-like quality because it is so packed with rhymes and recognizable phrases that should be set to tunes.

-Graham S. Below you will find the important quotes in, “Would not have made it through AP Literature without the printable PDFs. More often it has been viewed as a mystery requiring a solution, with every detail being cross-examined in the hope that it will crack under pressure and reveal what Carroll is really up to. A murder palace (Holmes's hotel).

', 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. Dot and Bette were wearing a VERY Alice like dress (blue with white pinafore) in the last episode. To add a little to what a couple of other commenters are saying, there is no early "dark" version of Alice in Wonderland. When he reached 18, Dodgson left home to attend Oxford University, where he stayed for the next 20 years.

The wikipedia page provides a publishing history and many of the adaptations of the storis.

After all, children were out at jobs as soon as they were able, it seems, and even imprisoned for the debts of their parents (as were Charles Dickens' siblings). I found some posts that may be similar to yours.

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Not to say Alice's parents might not have been p.o.ed about it, if that is indeed what caused the rift, or as you state, the desire to marry her even though she was only 11.

Dot and Bette are twins like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. You're mad.' Alice in wonderland • 2 points • 2 comments. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies.

Alice in Wonderland on LSD • 15 points • 8 comments. When the Mouse in the Caucus-race scene misunderstands Alice and leaves her, offended, Alice is left alone and disoriented – this happens a lot with the characters in Wonderland. I think in future seasons we're more likely to see a murderer at a summer camp, haunted Indian burial grounds, Roanoke, government experiments, mobsters, shapeshifters, Bigfoot, etc. When the Mouse in the Caucus-race scene misunderstands Alice and leaves her, offended, Alice is left alone and disoriented – this happens a lot with the characters in Wonderland. 11 is young for marriage by anybody's standard, even to the elasticity of the mid-Victorian (consent was raised to 13 in the UK in 1875, some years after he knew the Liddell's in the 1850s-60s). So maybe it's a combination of those things that led to the idea that there was a "dark" original version of Alice. Close.

The closest thing is that his ties to the family of Alice Liddell, for whom Alice is named, became extremely strained at some point even though he had been a close family friend, and there were rumors it was because he made it known that he wanted to marry Alice Liddell (who was 11 at the time). 'I HAVE tasted eggs, certainly,' said Alice, who was a very truthful child; 'but little girls eat eggs quite as much as serpents do, you know.' In fact many critics are convinced that the whole story is so full of references to the city that it should be viewed as an elaborate Oxford in-joke.

Alice’s journey is fraught with misunderstandings and offences due to language. I like the references, and it would be dark, but I think you're right. STREAM MOVIE "Alice in Wonderland 1951" film online ac3 iOS iPhone 1280p.

Explain Like I'm Five is the best forum and archive on the internet for layperson-friendly explanations. But as he said in Through the Looking Glass: It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards.

His defenders point out that such interpretations probably reveal more about our own fears than they do about Carroll. Fairfarren in Scottish means, "Fair fairing" or "Good journeying." It would be great!

And so words and meaning becomes tied up with the idea of the self, of who a person is. It's HIM.

I would like to see something like American Horror Story: Conspiracy as how many conspiracy theories are there out there about the Illuminati (or other organisations) controlling everything through occult and scientific means. Potential (inconsequential) spoilers for themes in later episodes: Dandy's croquet set in his 'play room', very like the Queen of Hearts. 'I don't believe it,' said the Pigeon; 'but if they do, why then they're a kind of serpent, that's all I can say.

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